Argumentation on Reddit
[017] You Dropped Your Face
Username: Repulsive_Grand4746:
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Redditors: Redditor9, Redditor27, Redditor28, Redditor29
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Subreddit: DebateAnAtheist
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Repulsive_Grand4746:
As a Christian, I find a lack of valid reasoning here in the atheist debate forum. With so much pride about intellectualism, one would expect to see a surplus of valid reasoning.
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Redditor27:
Welcome..?
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Repulsive_Grand4746:
Welcome..?
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Thank you, but why is your welcome a question?
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Redditor27:
It was a tentative, uncertain sort of welcome. The same tone in which you’d say "gesundheit" to someone who had sneezed so hard that their face fell off. You’re not sure what to make of the situation, so you fall back on muscle memory.
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Repulsive_Grand4746:
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Redditor27:
You seem to have dropped your face again.
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Repulsive_Grand4746:
You seem to have dropped your face again.
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Your comment is nonsensical here.
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Have I seemed to drop my face a first time? If so, where? and how? and what does that mean?
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If not, then how can I seem to drop my face again, when the word 'again' implies a previous incident? so why did you say that?
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As it stands, your comment is so nonsensical, it is as if you wrote it with your face on the floor, so that your eyes could not see the keys you typed.
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Redditor27:
Oh, dear. It appears that my lack of intellectualism has gone and made a mess of things again. I really must do something about that. Well, what would you recommend?
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Repulsive_Grand4746:
Oh, dear. It appears that my lack of intellectualism has gone and made a mess of things again. I really must do something about that. Well, what would you recommend?
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Yes, your lack of intellectualism has made a mess of things. I recommend two things.
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Answer my questions about your mess.
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Repent of your sins and believe in Jesus Christ.
If God works in you to believe, then you will become wise and intellectual. Moreso, you will be saved from His eternal wrath for His Glory.
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1 Corinthians 1:30
But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
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Redditor27:
How dreary life must be, with only the one dusty old book to pull your wisdom from. But as long as we’re sharing favorite literary passages, here’s one of mine: "The man with two watches never knows what time it is, whereas the man with one watch only thinks he does." Now, if you’ll excuse me, I must go fix my face before someone sneezes again.
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Redditor28:
I see. As I mentioned a lack of intellectualism here in the atheist forum, you fell unsure of yourself.
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We all can't be intellectual as you.
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Repulsive_Grand4746:
We all can’t be intellectual as you.
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This is correct, as long as I have the wisdom of God and you do not.
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1 Corinthians 1:25
Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
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Redditor28:
Omg your magic man god is so much more powerful than me!
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Repulsive_Grand4746:
Omg your magic man god is so much more powerful than me!
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What is a 'magic man god' and what does it have to do with me? How do you know this 'magic man god' is my God?
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If you are missing adequate answers to any of these questions, then your comment is mere gibberish, and you therefore reinforce what you have just affirmed about not being capable of matching my intellectualism.
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Redditor28:
You haven’t demonstrated any intellectualism. You’re just sharing quotes from a fictional story.
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Repulsive_Grand4746:
So your comment was flimsy gibberish that you will not reinforce. Therefore you are reinforcing what you said about not being as intellectual as me - I am speaking intellectually, and you are not.
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You haven’t demonstrated any intellectualism.
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If I have not demonstrated any intellectualism, then why did you say you 'all can’t be intellectual' as me? Was that just more flimsy gibberish of yours, resulting from your lack of intellectualism? Do all atheist/anti-theists in this forum intellectually trip over themselves as much as you do?
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How do you know you all cannot 'be intellectual as' me if I have not demonstrated any intellectualism? Are you implying all your intellectualism is so low, anyone else must have higher intellectualism than you?
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What is intellectualism according to you? How does one demonstrate intellectualism?
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You’re just sharing quotes from a fictional story.
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How do you know this? 'Quotes' refers to more than one, so please show at least two quotes I shared. Then, show which single story they are from, and how you know the story is fictional.
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Then, when you say I am 'just' sharing quotes, what do you mean by 'just'? Do you mean you recognize me as doing nothing but sharing quotes, so that all of the words I type are not my own, but all part of a preexisting story? or what?
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If you cannot produce anything of substance, then these comments of yours will also be revealed to be gibberish, adding on to your pile of existing gibberish.
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Redditor29:
As a Christian, I find a lack of valid reasoning here in the atheist debate forum. With so much pride about intellectualism, one would expect to see a surplus of valid reasoning.
I noticed that you do not provide any examples, but clearly you are disappointed. Ask reddit for a full refund.
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Repulsive_Grand4746:
I noticed that you do not provide any examples, but clearly you are disappointed.
Incorrect. I am not disappointed, because I expect a lack of valid reasoning from anti-Christians. The Bible reveals anti-Christians are foolish.
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As a Christian, I find a lack of valid reasoning here in the atheist debate forum. With so much pride about intellectualism, one would expect to see a surplus of valid reasoning.
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I intentionally wrote 'one would expect' as opposed to 'I expected', because I am polemic. I did not specify which 'one' or 'ones' would expect it. I am careful with my words.
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Ask reddit for a full refund.
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Refund of what? Is this a joke? Are you a jokester? Are you like the class clown of r/DebateAnAtheist? Do the atheists perhaps go to you to lighten them up after they get destroyed by an intellectual Christian?
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Redditor29:
You have an ego on you.
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Redditor9:
As a Christian, I find a lack of valid reasoning here in the atheist debate forum. With so much pride about intellectualism, one would expect to see a surplus of valid reasoning.
Do you have some examples, or...?
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Repulsive_Grand4746:
Do you have some examples, or...?
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Examples of what? Or what?
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Redditor9:
Examples of what?
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Examples of your claim:
"a lack of valid reasoning here in the atheist debate forum"
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Or what?
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Or are you just making claims without valid reasoning or evidence?
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It wasn't a confusing or difficult question, or so I thought....
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Repulsive_Grand4746:
Wow, in this post, I reveal your laziness and reasonably put your familiarity with intellectual thought into question - and you hardly did anything besides ask a question so far. What does that say about us?
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Examples of your claim: "a lack of valid reasoning here in the atheist debate forum"
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Why did you only quote part of my claim? You cut out the crucial part where I said, "As a Christian, I find...".
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Note I did not say there is a lack of valid reasoning here in the atheist debate forum. I said I find a lack of it. Perhaps I have not searched much. Perhaps I have carefully examined every comment in every thread since the past year. Regardless, I reported that I found a lack of valid reasoning here in the atheist debate forum.
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When you claim that I claimed, "a lack of valid reasoning here in the atheist debate forum", you are cutting my claim in pieces, and using only one part of it. Let me point out, you can use this against me in a silly and unfair manner. For example, I will use your method on you.
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You commented, "Or are you just making claims without valid reasoning or evidence?"
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I will use your method by cutting your comment and questioning you on it.
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you just making claims without valid reasoning or evidence
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How do you know I am just making claims without valid reasoning or evidence? Don't just claim it, show it. Prove it.
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Observe how this tactic can serve as dishonest. I have changed your message from a question to a claim simply by quoting a specific part of it, then I challenged you on it for a demonstrative purpose. Now, when you cut my comment, were you seriously trying to be dishonest? Were you challenging me as if I claimed there is 'a lack of valid reasoning here in the atheist debate forum'? Because that is precisely the only part of my comment you quoted, and it is not simply what I claimed.
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Were you lazy with the quote feature? Were you trying to distort the situation? Were you unintentionally distorting the situation? or what?
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Or are you just making claims without valid reasoning or evidence?
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What do you mean by 'valid reasoning' and 'evidence'? Also, do you mean if I do not have examples for my claim, then I am just making claims without valid reasoning or evidence? If so, what is an example? and where are your examples that you thought your question was not confusing or difficult? or, which claims need examples in order to not be without valid reasoning and evidence? Please explain yourself so I can understand what you mean.
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It wasn't a confusing or difficult question, or so I thought....
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Perhaps you thought your question was coherent and simple, because you are not a critical thinker. Note I am the Christian and you are the anti-Christian. As the Bible is the absolute truth and declares anti-Christians are foolish, I believe anti-Christians are unintellectual. Nevertheless, let me use my intellect to examine and display some details about your question.
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As a Christian, I find a lack of valid reasoning here in the atheist debate forum. With so much pride about intellectualism, one would expect to see a surplus of valid reasoning.
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Do you have some examples, or...?
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First, this is an incomplete question. It ends in a conjunction, but only contains one phrase. It appears to have been cut in pieces, and I was only given one piece. As an intellectual thinker, I wanted to understand your complete thought, if you had one, so this is why I inquired, "Or what?".
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Remember, you thought your question was not difficult nor confusing, but I have explained it to be an incomplete question. Either you thought your question was complete, or you do not regard an incomplete question as confusing nor difficult. Which is it?
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Second, let us examine the different parts of my comment that you could have been referring to for examples.
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For this examination, I will break my comment into three parts.
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As a Christian, I find a lack of valid reasoning here in the atheist debate forum.
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With so much pride about intellectualism...
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...one would expect to see a surplus of valid reasoning.
You could have been referring to the first part of my comment. In this case, you may be inquiring if I have an example of myself finding a lack of valid reasoning in this atheist debate forum.
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Or, you could have been referring to the second part of my comment. In this case, you may be inquiring if I have an example of pride and intellectualism, such as what I think it looks like. Did you account for this?
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Lastly, you could have been referring to the third part of my comment. In this case, you may be inquiring if I have an example of a surplus of valid reasoning, such as what I think it should look like. Did you account for this?
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Remember, I said all these different things, and you just asked, "Do you have some examples, or...?". Then, you did not just answer with a general inquiry, like, "Any examples you are willing to offer relating to your comment". Instead, you answered with an oddly specific, cut version of one of the claims I made, and brought up the idea that your question was somehow clear and direct.
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Now that I have explained these possibilities, do you see why someone with the same intellectual power as me would ask, "Examples of what?"? I consider your incomplete and vague question an inaccuracy, and you considered your incomplete and vague question a non-confusing and non-difficult question.
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We can look at your inaccuracy from another angle. When I revealed a need for you to present a fuller, more coherent question, you presented two points of clarity.
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The first point of clarity is when you said, "Examples of your claim". You clarified that you wanted to know if I had examples of my claim.
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The second point of clarity is when you partially quoted one of my claims: "a lack of valid reasoning here in the atheist debate forum".
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If your question was so simple, then why did you supply two points of clarity as opposed to just one? If your question was so simple, should not the answer, "Examples of your claim" have been enough? Did you add a chopped up quote of one of my claims because you realized I made multiple claims and you needed to clarify which one? If so, then why did you say, "It wasn't a confusing or difficult question, or so I thought...."? Were you perhaps being crafty and trying to appear smart with me? Or, do you now realize it was a confusing and difficult question, but you meant you did not realize it before?
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I can spend days dissecting your comments with valid reasoning, but how will you respond? Remember, I am the Christian, and you are the anti-Christian.
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Of course I have examples of me finding a lack of valid reasoning in this atheist debate forum, while I find a lack of it. You are on your way to becoming a great example of it yourself.
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